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    February 20th, 2010ismepeteSEO

    I rolled up to Brighton yesterday afternoon to partake in the BrightonSEO mini conference  organised by Kelvin Newman of SiteVisibility. It was an afternoon of presentations looking and discussing various aspects of SEO and online marketing.

    I wrote a few notes as the day went on, and below is a brief overview of all the areas discussed.

    First up was Jamie Freeman, from Message Digital, a self confessed SEO sceptic. I’d been amused by the premise of an SEO sceptic talking at an afternoon of SEO presentations and was quite intrigued by what he was saying.

    He’d written a book with 500 web design tips (no mean feat that), and talked about what he considered to be the “Holy Trinity of SEO”, the 3 C’s – Content, Code and Connections (links).

    Jamie didn’t really see the need to do SEO as the sites thathe made ranked well using compliant code, with good content and links seemed to happen in their own right. I can see what he is getting at, but things got a little hairy when he asked which of the the 3 was the most important – with the room being full of SEOs, the answers was of course Links, which Jamie disagreed with, as he felt the content was the most important

    Some lively debate ensued, with the SEOs in the audience further explaining that tens or hundreds of websites can have great content on a subject – and in many scenarios this is a given – but the majority of the audience felt that in a competitive environment, content alone will not normally be enough to get to those top monetisable positions.

    Next up was Andy Keetch from Wired Sussex, an organisation that helps people find the right Digital companies in the area. Andy talked a lot about the Digital Community in Brighton, how they help people find jobs and graduate opportunities in the area, helping organise social events. I was surprised to learn that they work with the region of 1500 companies and it sounded like a very organised community to be a part of, in an area of the country that has a thriving scene.

    Whilst there are plenty of Web and Digital Agencies in Portsmouth and elsewhere in Hampshire, there is nothing (that I know of) organised like this in the Hampshire area and it was very interesting to hear how they go about helping that community in so many ways.

    Next up was me, from Vertical Leap - I was talking about client goals, KPIs and managing client expectations. I was incredibly nervous at first and spent a bit too much time reading the cards I’d prepared the day before, but after I relaxed a bit more and stopped looking at my prompts I was a lot more confident, and I think my message came across well.

    I was talking about the need to really understand a clients “real” reason to engage with an SEO Company – it’s to make money. How that website makes money, and the routes that it takes to make that money differ and the strategies that you put in place to achieve those goals differ – but all it comes down to the bottom line in the end.

    I talked about many of the long term relationships I have formed with my clients, and how communicating effectively with your clients about the wins that you gain them were vital.

    Clients often have goals to increase rankings for particular phrases, or to hit certain traffic targets, but these are measures that are a means to the end result of making money. Many times, these may be specific goals that you work to for a client as part of a long term strategy, but that ultimately you need to have some short term goals as well to ensure that you are delivering some kind of return on an investment as soon as possible.

    I think after battling my nerves I managed to deliver the message of what I was trying to say effectively enough, and have certainly learnt some lessons for future speaking from doing this. I will definitely make a Powerpoint presentation next time, I will just try and speak rather than attempt to read from a prompt and I will try and relax more. I definitely enjoyed it though, and had some good feedback from people as we discussed the days presentations later on.

    Next up was Jeremy from White Hat Media (I am pretty sure that is right, but I had nipped to the loo during the introductions).

    I really liked his SEO is like a racing car analogy – you can have the best car and driver (website changes – on site optimisation), but that doesn’t mean you will always win a race (the link building part of SEO). He also interacted well with the audience offering an alcoholic prize for the best “worst thing a client has asked you”, but seemed rather disappointed when one of his own employees one the audiences loudest cheer.

    Next up was Cedric from Jollywise, talking about some really interesting social media techniques for films like Up and The Boat That Rocked. It seemed like they had some good ways of getting social engagement with Banner adverts as well and it was fascinating to get an insight into some other areas of Digital Marketing that I have not really looked at before.

    Steve Purkiss stood up next and gave a demonstration of an SEO Checklist for Drupal – this seemed like a really useful way of ensuring that you have the right modules required to do SEO well with this content management system – I liked the quote of “Obama uses it, it must be good!”.

    The next talk was about “cookies” from Nikki Rae of Fresh Egg. This was a really entertaining presentation, that had plenty of audience interaction with me, Paddy Morgan from Pin Digital (who must win the award for travelling the furthest – all the way from Birmingham!), Annabel Hodges (better know to me as SearchPanda), Mark from Fresh Egg and Anna from MAD taking part in a demonstration of how cookies (which Paddy got to eat) go from the person browsing to a website to a sever and back again.

    I must confess to not really having the greatest knowledge of cookies and found this a really interesting introduction about them. It was certainly interesting.

    The last of the main speakers was Jack from Propellernet, who was taking the opportunity to show off some fantastic new offices they have moved to, with some really good Graffiti artwork. He then talked about how he formed the company and I particularly liked the phrase “block out the noise – focus on the clients”. I was also quite interested in their somewhat different approach to SEO with very tight integration with traditional PR techniques.

    After the main speakers were complete, Kelvin then thanked everyone for coming along and mentioned that one more person wanted to speak – in regards to an NDA that had been floating around in recent weeks and introduced a chap called Paul that wanted to speak to us. I don’t know that this is necessarily being widely talked about yet, but I’ve never agreed to not disclose it, so here I go.

    Paul explained about his background – he was a blackhat that had controlled millions of millions of links in the past and had used that to propel sites to the very top positions for highly monetisable phrases. He then went on to explain that he was now working with a large number of national and regional Newspapers across the UK and US, and essentially they have had enough of Google taking all the advertising revenues that they have over the years been used to receiving and think they have found a way to “fight back”.

    As I understood what was being proposed (and this might be slightly misinterpreted), is that the Newspapers have millions on pages that they don’t gain traffic from anymore, and they are prepared to sell links on these pages, with anchors that you want and large volumes of them – in an effort to a) make the newspapers some cash, and b) manipulate Google’s rankings to gain those websites traffic. As I understand it, this is being planned on a particularly large scale, and I think that we were being offered the opportunity to take part.

    I’m not convinced that Paul selected the right audience to talk to about this. Many people in the room had not engaged in buying links at all, and whilst all the SEOs in the room agreed that Newspaper links as a rule do a carry a lot of weight, it seemed agreed that they might not do in the foreseeable future were this to come out in the open.

    Paul’s thrust on this was that many journalists have lost their jobs in recent years because of the rise of the Internet and the amount of “free” content that gets put out on the web – often without the “standards” that journalists have to adhere to.

    I think that whilst the concept sounds interesting (and quite possibly expensive), that this surely, once out in the open, has very little chance of success in the long term. When Paul discussed his sites, he seemed to be prepared to throw them away if they crashed and burned in the SERPs, but with my clients and their brands that they want to establish for long term success, not take risks for short term gains. If everything he said was true – it sounded effective, but certainly not long term strategies.

    All in all, it was a great day and a great evening!

    If you were there, and I’ve missed anything important, please feel free to leave a comment!

    ismepete (29 Posts)

    I'm an online marketer, specialising in Search Engine Optimisation (SEO). I write for theMediaFlow Search Engine Marketing blog, write my own personal blog covering online marketing and what's going on in my life and manage and contribute to a food blog.


  • http://www.siliconbeachtraining.co.uk/ heather buckley

    Thanks for that, how organised of you to write it up so quickly, summed it up quite well I think, will begin uploading some video content next week, but first got to get some weekend in!

    Heather

  • http://www.peterhandley.com/ Peter Handley

    I thought if I didn't do it straight away, I probably never would!

  • http://www.analyticstraining.co.uk/ Nikki Rae

    Glad you enjoyed it – thought you were great!!!

  • Lisa Rhodes

    Good write up, thanks…sounds like I missed an interesting meetup!

  • http://www.a451.co.uk/ Carla Holcombe

    Really enjoyed your talk, thanks for writing a summary so quickly!

  • http://twitter.com/eggboxrobin Robin Houghton

    Thanks Pete, that's a really useful summary as I wasn't able to stay for all the presentations. (You did great, by the way – not easy in a hot room with an opinionated audience!) Cheers

  • http://www.siliconbeachtraining.co.uk/blog/ Heather Buckley

    We've now posted a video of Nikki Rae's great Cookies demonstration at our blog here http://www.siliconbeachtraining.co.uk/blog/what

  • http://www.whitehatmedia.com/ Jeremy Spiller

    Peter, you got the name spot on and as you say Zac did win the prize. Not disappointed though, I was just hoping no-one thought it was a fix :) The whisky has now been delivered.

    An excellent summary of a very pleasant afternoon and I particularly enjoyed your session.

    Many thanks,

    Jeremy Spiller
    http://www.twitter.com/jeremyspiller
    http://www.whitehatmedia.com

  • http://www.peterhandley.com/ Peter Handley

    Thanks for the comments everyone – much appreciate the positive feedback too :)

    Jeremy – we didn't think it was a fix, honest! I'm sure Zac will very much enjoy his Whisky!

  • siliconbeachtraining

    Just posted up our take on the Black Hat v White Hat SEO debate http://www.siliconbeachtraining.co.uk/blog/blac… causing quite a stirr already!! Will be publishing the Death of Journalism – future of Journalism piece on Friday watch this space.

    Heather – Silicon Beach Training

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  • Drabdavid

    I wish I had seen this event it would have been great to go too. I must admit that after spending a few years in the game I am starting to swing towards Jamie Freemans view, the reason is I have many sites at or near the top of their niches with very few links pointing to them. The sites are there due to the three C's!

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  • http://www.offroadobsessions.co.uk Daniel

    Was a brilliant day. and i cant wait for the next. i found some comment quite intriuging. i was puzzled by something you said ''Paul’s thrust on this was that many journalists have lost their jobs in recent years because of the rise of the Internet'' maybe if they wernt compulsive liars it might have somthing to do with it???????????????

  • http://www.peterhandley.com/ Peter Handley

    I can see where you are coming from, though I do understand Paul's point to a degree.

    SEOs are quite good at churning out large volumes of dubious value content, and I think he was looking to form a relationship between the 2.

    After all, we need content and they produce it – the problem is SEOs can get content far cheaper than a journalists rates of 'good enough' quality for the purposes its used for.

    I suppose though, much like there are SEOs of dubious quality around, the same can be said for journalism standards at times!

    I'm looking forward to the next one too – only a few weeks away! Seeya there!

  • http://www.siliconbeachtraining.co.uk/social-media-training/ Social Media Training

    Looking forward to the next one – Zac's talk sounds interesting! Let's hope we get to do as exciting write ups this time round…

    Heather

  • http://www.peterhandley.com/ Peter Handley

    Let's hope so!

    I'm looking forward to Zachs talk too, tho I have to confess to not knowing much about the subject matter :)